By “some other multiples”, we are probably what is referred to as “trauma multiple” (I fucking hate that word btw). I’ve said it before somewhere in my journal, that I don’t think we were born multiple but what the hell do I know?… none of us has any memories before the body was 2 years old so we can’t really know that can we? Yes we went through “trauma” but that doesn’t have to be the reason why we are multiple…. some of us were never abused or have been through any kind of trauma… I admit that people in this system deal with shit that can be referred to as a disorder but that does NOT apply to all of us… and therefore the multiplicity can’t be a disorder… not for us at least… we are people… each of us with their own interests, ideas and feelings….
And as for the phrase “trauma multiple” *sigh* Some of us defiantly and without a doubt have PTSD but that does not apply to all of us! Does that make *all* of traumatized? I don’t think so!
As for the word “disorder” or the meaning of it…. To me that is something that is when things are totally out of a person’s control and it is disrupting his or her usual daily life…. It is NOT a disorder when someone else see a person as disordered or when a person doesn’t fit the “norm” (what ever that is). Something that is considered normal in one society can be considered abnormal in another. To me multiplicity is normal… I can however understand people who haven’t educated themselves on it will see it as a disorder or way off from being normal… but think about it of a minute…. If you had 30 people in a room… a few of those people can be getting help (or have in the past) for depression, panic attacks or eating problems… would you then consider the whole room as having a disorder? I’m pretty sure your answer to that question would be no…. but this is what multiplicity is about…. a group of people in “a room” ( the room being a body).
mar & gabriel (+ some inputs from: damian, rain and darquel)
Just stopped by to wish you a Happy Valentine’s Day Gabriel!! *hugs*
Couldn’t have said it better ourselves. Cheers.
.. many ((((((((((((((((((((((hugs to all of you))))))))))))))))))))) .. !
those are totally good points. awesome post.
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Well said, bro! Let it out:0)
Happy Valentine`s Day!
What do you say if we tried to have a special day and time of the day to talk? It`s easier for me to put you into my schedule on a certain time of the day. (Not every day, but let me hear what you think, ok?) I can take that hour or so off just for you:0) And in that way, you will know when we can talk. Let me know what you think, ok? Better stop before I run out of paper on this thing…lol…
Love you!!
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(( Gabriel ))
You know people in general do not educate themselves on anything that is not part of their enviroment. And then you have people that think they know it all… Well, I will honestly tell you, I don’t know evrything much to some people chagrin, and I educate myself for my benefit and to understand the people that I care for.. I am totally proud of you.
Sending you kiss & hugs
happy v-day gabriel… 🙂 i didn’t read your entire post, but love you and know what you’re feeling!
happy valentine’s day gab! love you
Some people are just so wrapped up in themselves that they are not opened to anything different! Everyday I learn something new about you and I am honored 🙂
Love you 🙂 I know you don’t celebrate V-Day … have a happy V-Day just the same 🙂
yeah baby!!!
Very well put! I think you may have opened a lot of people’s eyes with this post. Or you may have at least made some people think differently. Good for you!
I am finding it alittle clearer and your explination was good. I know nothing about multiplicity, just that it is real. I only wish you and the others well and that you all learn to live happily together. God Bless…
There are many types of disorders, to list. To me, these are names given by psychologists who gave each of the “disorder” a definition. You’r right, these ppl definitely are NOT abnormal… Some have bad incidents / suffered trauma which they can remember while some can’t.
Gabriel,
I just stumbled upon your website today. I want you to know that you seem like a very awesome person. I’ve been feeling so horrible all day about myself, and my obsession with losing weight. Meeting you through your words has helped me to feel a little better.
Love,
Carrie
It’s pretty clear to anyone who reads the DSM-IV that the mental health industry is categorizing many ordinary life problems and even idiosyncratic behaviors that aren’t problems as “disorders”, just so they can keep people in bogus therapies in order get paid by insurance companies.
However, as you said, a lot of people just take for granted that if someone has a Psy.D. or a Ph.D. or whatever, they must know what they’re talking about — and when these lofty beings seem not to make sense, well, that’s just because they’re smarter than the rest of us!
Being multiple is a reality lived by many more people than is generally realized. I think when it’s recognized by the general public that there are so many multiples in the general public, things will become more relaxed and open for us, and we won’t have to hide. Good for you guys for doing your part to put an end to preconceived ideas about what multiplicity is. Every website, every journal, is another step toward visibility.
Great people are you. To realize difference between social expectations and it’s demand to be predictable which is not humane at all seems to be hard in so many situations. Is it any virtue to be a sheep in a herd? No matter what the “herd” is. So They say we’ve got no empaty but social systems never hase one for us. It’s a dynamics of social relations. Show me one who does not lie. Is there multiplicity really a problem for the people?